In this episode, Bret Taylor unpacks why AI is transforming software engineering forever, how founders can survive acquisition (he’s done it twice), and why the true bottlenecks in AI aren’t what most people think.

Drawing on experiences, he explains why the next phase of AI won’t just be about better models—but about entirely new ways we’ll work with them. Bret exposes the reality gap between what AI insiders understand and what everyone else believes.

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Bret Taylor is the Chairman of OpenAI and CEO of Sierra. Previously, he was the CTO of Facebook, Chairman of the board for X, and the Co-CEO of Salesforce. 

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